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	<title>Comments on: How Ideology Impacts a Judge’s Decision Making – A Study of Justice Chinnappa Reddy’s judgments on DPSP v. FRs</title>
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		<title>By: Madabhushi Sridhar</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-14998</link>
		<dc:creator>Madabhushi Sridhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anirudh Krishnan has made a very crisp and effective analysis of Justice Reddy&#039;s mind, the judgments relevant and the present trend with reference to Part III and Part IV of the Constitution. His interview with Justice Chinnappa Reddy has brought out the strong views of the later. It is a great tribute to Justice Reddy who died recently. Anirudh deserves all appreciation for his appreciation and analysis of Article 31C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anirudh Krishnan has made a very crisp and effective analysis of Justice Reddy&#8217;s mind, the judgments relevant and the present trend with reference to Part III and Part IV of the Constitution. His interview with Justice Chinnappa Reddy has brought out the strong views of the later. It is a great tribute to Justice Reddy who died recently. Anirudh deserves all appreciation for his appreciation and analysis of Article 31C.</p>
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		<title>By: raja</title>
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		<dc:creator>raja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Niranjan ......Moreover, an amendment moved by Prof. KT Shah to exclude “private property” from Art. 39(b) was withdrawn on the assurance that that was already the case.
Can you give more details on this statement ? If this is so read  the observation by the Seven Judge Bench in Property owners Association case on 20-2-2002:
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Having given due consideration, we are of the opinion that  this interpretation  of Article 39(b)  requires  to  be reconsidered  by a Bench of nine learned Judges:  we have some difficulty  in sharing the broad view that material  resources of  the community under Article 39(b) covers what is privately owned.

Unquote: If Prof. K.T. Shah was assured ( by whom &amp; when) is correct, then  does it need a Nine Judge Bench to consider it ?
Please clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Niranjan &#8230;&#8230;Moreover, an amendment moved by Prof. KT Shah to exclude “private property” from Art. 39(b) was withdrawn on the assurance that that was already the case.<br />
Can you give more details on this statement ? If this is so read  the observation by the Seven Judge Bench in Property owners Association case on 20-2-2002:<br />
Quote:<br />
Having given due consideration, we are of the opinion that  this interpretation  of Article 39(b)  requires  to  be reconsidered  by a Bench of nine learned Judges:  we have some difficulty  in sharing the broad view that material  resources of  the community under Article 39(b) covers what is privately owned.</p>
<p>Unquote: If Prof. K.T. Shah was assured ( by whom &amp; when) is correct, then  does it need a Nine Judge Bench to consider it ?<br />
Please clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: hcg protocol phase 2</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>hcg protocol phase 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pretty beneficial material, overall I believe this is well worth a bookmark, thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty beneficial material, overall I believe this is well worth a bookmark, thanks</p>
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		<title>By: defendis insurance</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>defendis insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 05:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be the most influential thing that I have read all month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be the most influential thing that I have read all month?</p>
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		<title>By: marina insurance</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>marina insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be the best thing that I have read this year.</description>
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		<title>By: Niranjan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niranjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Prasan, I don&#039;t mean to imply that things like corruption or appointment procedure are unimportant. Just that judges making law when (often) there is no need to do so is less obviously a problem than - because it is not as widely identified as incorrect. As far as I know, the only sustained analysis of Indian judgments with this concern is mind is Mr. Seervai&#039;s and that was fourteen years ago. Of course this is not a settled question, and it never will be. Perhaps this view is also in the minority. So I don&#039;t want to get into making a case for judicial conservatism here - one of the most succinct and yet comprehensive pieces that does that is available at http://www.joink.com/homes/users/ninoville/lesserevil.asp. 

@Anirudh, I agree - a judge will ultimately fail to be entirely apolitical. But I don&#039;t think that is a reason to abandon the task as hopeless, especially when he confronts a case where the law is clear. Again, the best exposition of this view I&#039;ve read is Mr. Seervai&#039;s book, Vol. I, Interpretation of the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Prasan, I don&#8217;t mean to imply that things like corruption or appointment procedure are unimportant. Just that judges making law when (often) there is no need to do so is less obviously a problem than &#8211; because it is not as widely identified as incorrect. As far as I know, the only sustained analysis of Indian judgments with this concern is mind is Mr. Seervai&#8217;s and that was fourteen years ago. Of course this is not a settled question, and it never will be. Perhaps this view is also in the minority. So I don&#8217;t want to get into making a case for judicial conservatism here &#8211; one of the most succinct and yet comprehensive pieces that does that is available at <a href="http://www.joink.com/homes/users/ninoville/lesserevil.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.joink.com/homes/users/ninoville/lesserevil.asp</a>. </p>
<p>@Anirudh, I agree &#8211; a judge will ultimately fail to be entirely apolitical. But I don&#8217;t think that is a reason to abandon the task as hopeless, especially when he confronts a case where the law is clear. Again, the best exposition of this view I&#8217;ve read is Mr. Seervai&#8217;s book, Vol. I, Interpretation of the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Anirudh Krishnan</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Anirudh Krishnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not address this aspect of Niranjan&#039;s reply in my earlier reply. My post merely seeks to elucidate that the ideologies that a judge subscribes to impacts his decision making. I agree with Professor Sathe that it is impossible for a judge to be apolitical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not address this aspect of Niranjan&#8217;s reply in my earlier reply. My post merely seeks to elucidate that the ideologies that a judge subscribes to impacts his decision making. I agree with Professor Sathe that it is impossible for a judge to be apolitical.</p>
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		<title>By: Prasan Dhar</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Prasan Dhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[T]he greatest danger to the judiciary, especially in India – [is] deciding cases on factors that are unconnected with legal reasoning.&quot; That is surely quite harsh. Whatever happened to judicial corruption, judicial appointment procedures, case overload, badly trained lower court judges etc.?

You assume that the law exhausts all possible solutions in matters before the court. That is quite clearly false. Courts make law, whether we like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[T]he greatest danger to the judiciary, especially in India – [is] deciding cases on factors that are unconnected with legal reasoning.&#8221; That is surely quite harsh. Whatever happened to judicial corruption, judicial appointment procedures, case overload, badly trained lower court judges etc.?</p>
<p>You assume that the law exhausts all possible solutions in matters before the court. That is quite clearly false. Courts make law, whether we like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Anirudh Krishnan</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Anirudh Krishnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niranjan, I agree that Justice Reddy&#039;s stand that DPSP must override FRs is against the intention of the framers of the Constitution. Infact B.N.Rau’s view that a law made in furtherance of a directive principle should be considered a reasonable restriction on a fundamental right , was expressly rejected by the rest of the Constituent Assembly. However, I agree with the balance that has been reached by the Supreme Court today (in Municipal Corporation of the City of Ahmedabad v. Jan Mohammed Usmanbhai, Workmen of Meenakshi Mills Ltd. v. Meenakshi Mills Ltd., M.R.F. Ltd. v. Inspector, Kerala Govt).

The decision of the Constitutional bench reconsidering Sanjeeva Coke would be interesting. However, subject to correction, they are looking into only one aspect of the decision (which was raised in Property Owners&#039; Association v. State of Maharashtra). Jusitce Reddy did not go into the issue of whether the pre-42nd Amendment Article 31C automatically revived post-Minerva Mills or whether Article 31C ceased to exist in any form post-Minerva Mills.  This issue, I believe,  is still pending before the Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niranjan, I agree that Justice Reddy&#8217;s stand that DPSP must override FRs is against the intention of the framers of the Constitution. Infact B.N.Rau’s view that a law made in furtherance of a directive principle should be considered a reasonable restriction on a fundamental right , was expressly rejected by the rest of the Constituent Assembly. However, I agree with the balance that has been reached by the Supreme Court today (in Municipal Corporation of the City of Ahmedabad v. Jan Mohammed Usmanbhai, Workmen of Meenakshi Mills Ltd. v. Meenakshi Mills Ltd., M.R.F. Ltd. v. Inspector, Kerala Govt).</p>
<p>The decision of the Constitutional bench reconsidering Sanjeeva Coke would be interesting. However, subject to correction, they are looking into only one aspect of the decision (which was raised in Property Owners&#8217; Association v. State of Maharashtra). Jusitce Reddy did not go into the issue of whether the pre-42nd Amendment Article 31C automatically revived post-Minerva Mills or whether Article 31C ceased to exist in any form post-Minerva Mills.  This issue, I believe,  is still pending before the Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Niranjan</title>
		<link>http://www.criticaltwenties.in/lawthejudiciary/how-ideology-impacts-a-judge%e2%80%99s-decision-making-%e2%80%93-a-study-of-justice-chinnappa-reddy%e2%80%99s-decisions-on-dpsp-v-frs#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Niranjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Anirudh. This post demonstrates what I believe is the greatest danger to the judiciary, especially in India - deciding cases on factors that are unconnected with legal reasoning. There are many examples one could cite, of course, but here I&#039;ll briefly discuss Sanjeev Coke. 

With great respect to Justice Chinappa Reddy, I believe Sanjeev Coke is wrongly decided and deserves to be overruled by the Bench constituted a few years ago to consider it. Mihir has written a wonderful article on the subject at 21(1) NLSIR - I&#039;ll post a link if I can find one. In short, Krishna Iyer J. had held in Ranganatha Reddy (in a concurring opinion, and possibly in obiter) that Art. 39(b) of the Constitution includes &quot;private property&quot;, relying on the word &quot;distribution&quot; used there. There is no clear explanation in the judgment of why this is the case, but it was accepted as law by Chinappa Reddy J. in Sanjeev Coke and subsequently, until it was doubted by a Constitution Bench in Property Owners. The difficulty with Chinnappa Reddy J.&#039;s thesis, as Mihir points out in more detail, is that it does not distinguish between &quot;acquisition&quot; of property and collection of taxes - it implies that tax collection for the common good is beyond the pale of FR scrutiny, which is not the case.

Finally, the Constituent Assembly debates strongly (almost conclusively) demonstrate that Sanjeev Coke is incorrect. As Mr. Seervai points out, discussions on a draft proposed by BN Rau, if I remember correctly, demonstrate that the Constituent Assembly did not consider Directive Principles to be enforceable or justiciable. Further, Mr. Seervai argues persuasively that the drafters always intended Part III to override Part IV - while that is not the position the Supreme Court has taken today, it could not be further from the one Chinnappa Reddy J. proposes. Moreover, an amendment moved by Prof. KT Shah to exclude &quot;private property&quot; from Art. 39(b) was withdrawn on the assurance that that was already the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Anirudh. This post demonstrates what I believe is the greatest danger to the judiciary, especially in India &#8211; deciding cases on factors that are unconnected with legal reasoning. There are many examples one could cite, of course, but here I&#8217;ll briefly discuss Sanjeev Coke. </p>
<p>With great respect to Justice Chinappa Reddy, I believe Sanjeev Coke is wrongly decided and deserves to be overruled by the Bench constituted a few years ago to consider it. Mihir has written a wonderful article on the subject at 21(1) NLSIR &#8211; I&#8217;ll post a link if I can find one. In short, Krishna Iyer J. had held in Ranganatha Reddy (in a concurring opinion, and possibly in obiter) that Art. 39(b) of the Constitution includes &#8220;private property&#8221;, relying on the word &#8220;distribution&#8221; used there. There is no clear explanation in the judgment of why this is the case, but it was accepted as law by Chinappa Reddy J. in Sanjeev Coke and subsequently, until it was doubted by a Constitution Bench in Property Owners. The difficulty with Chinnappa Reddy J.&#8217;s thesis, as Mihir points out in more detail, is that it does not distinguish between &#8220;acquisition&#8221; of property and collection of taxes &#8211; it implies that tax collection for the common good is beyond the pale of FR scrutiny, which is not the case.</p>
<p>Finally, the Constituent Assembly debates strongly (almost conclusively) demonstrate that Sanjeev Coke is incorrect. As Mr. Seervai points out, discussions on a draft proposed by BN Rau, if I remember correctly, demonstrate that the Constituent Assembly did not consider Directive Principles to be enforceable or justiciable. Further, Mr. Seervai argues persuasively that the drafters always intended Part III to override Part IV &#8211; while that is not the position the Supreme Court has taken today, it could not be further from the one Chinnappa Reddy J. proposes. Moreover, an amendment moved by Prof. KT Shah to exclude &#8220;private property&#8221; from Art. 39(b) was withdrawn on the assurance that that was already the case.</p>
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