Comments on: Science education in India: Light after the tunnel or tunneling away from the light? http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sciencetechnology/science-education-in-india-light-after-the-tunnel-or-tunneling-away-from-the-light Powered by Webshore Wed, 02 Sep 2015 13:53:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Yusuf http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sciencetechnology/science-education-in-india-light-after-the-tunnel-or-tunneling-away-from-the-light#comment-21729 Yusuf Tue, 30 Jun 2015 02:35:50 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2168#comment-21729 the potential to be fhrtuer characterized by other analytical techniques.to search a Florida man's property for marijuana. DISCLAIMER: yes, I am well aware that my photos will show an abominable example of headpins twisted into loops; this is NOT how they should look, however, my good jewelry tools, including my half round needle nose pliers, got moved somewhere and I couldn’t find them. The event kicked off at 7PM on February 28th, 2012, with an engaging session led by students running TEDee . The former Pats WR joins Mut and Merloni to discuss the departure of Wes Welker, his initial reaction, and what Tom Brady may be feeling. the potential to be fhrtuer characterized by other analytical techniques.to search a Florida man’s property for marijuana. DISCLAIMER: yes, I am well aware that my photos will show an abominable example of headpins twisted into loops; this is NOT how they should look, however, my good jewelry tools, including my half round needle nose pliers, got moved somewhere and I couldn’t find them. The event kicked off at 7PM on February 28th, 2012, with an engaging session led by students running TEDee . The former Pats WR joins Mut and Merloni to discuss the departure of Wes Welker, his initial reaction, and what Tom Brady may be feeling.

]]> By: Pritam Roy http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sciencetechnology/science-education-in-india-light-after-the-tunnel-or-tunneling-away-from-the-light#comment-8958 Pritam Roy Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:31:04 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2168#comment-8958 Truly said,I am an undergraduate computer science major currently in my 3rd year of btech.Even though I want to be involved research ,I find myself staring at a wall Firstly the CS department of my university is very weak.There is no research happening in my univesity(it is a tier 2 enigineering college which sprung up to fulfill the needs of parents like mine to have their sons as engineers) Secondly I find awareness and interest in research surprisingly lacking in my fellow students who dont even think research is an option Frankly i find such a lack of interest in science research in students who have all been maths and science majors in school and who compete in some of the most competitive exams in the world which test only their maths and science skills rather strange . Truly said,I am an undergraduate computer science major currently in my 3rd year of btech.Even though I want to be involved research ,I find myself staring at a wall
Firstly the CS department of my university is very weak.There is no research happening in my univesity(it is a tier 2 enigineering college which sprung up to fulfill the needs of parents like mine to have their sons as engineers)
Secondly I find awareness and interest in research surprisingly lacking in my fellow students who dont even think research is an option
Frankly i find such a lack of interest in science research in students who have all been maths and science majors in school and who compete in some of the most competitive exams in the world which test only their maths and science skills rather strange .

]]> By: Ashutosh http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sciencetechnology/science-education-in-india-light-after-the-tunnel-or-tunneling-away-from-the-light#comment-2630 Ashutosh Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:49:13 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2168#comment-2630 Great comment, thanks! Great comment, thanks!

]]> By: Yogesh http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sciencetechnology/science-education-in-india-light-after-the-tunnel-or-tunneling-away-from-the-light#comment-2510 Yogesh Sat, 05 Feb 2011 01:53:31 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2168#comment-2510 Worth a read, I must say. Undergraduate research is a valid criticism. In fact, even undergraduate teaching is very neglected. Many talented Indian students are clueless about research after their Masters and take time to be confident of doing a PhD as well as understand what it is about. Unfortunately, this wasted time combined with the pressure to settle in before 30 means that people are in a hurry to finish PhD at the earliest and this is a rather wrong way to start a PhD. I think given the dollar/euro exchange rates, it is going to be hard-pressed for India to retain its top post-doc students. It is similar to the best Master's students going abroad for a Ph.D.. It is mainly a financial decision as well as societal pressure. By that i mean that you are respected all round even if you study in a third-rate institute abroad instead of a first-rate institute in India. This is not too dissimilar from the way many north indian students come and study in third-rate engineering colleges in South. Also, the top Indian institutes prefer and have rules that cater to post-docs and Phds from abroad than their own products. Sad state of affairs. They should not complain about students moving abroad at all. When talking of attitudinal change, i might add the following : Image of "success". Ram Guha spoke about it in the context of farmer suicides. The widely prevalent notion of success is 3 BHR own flat by 35, a fat pay cheque, a car and yearly vacations abroad. Unless you have these, you are a loser. This has lead people to aim for the glitzy glamorous life of a software or management professionals. A simple school/university teaching job is not considered one worth having at all. I hardly listen to anyone passionate about school teaching. This frightens me. If your school teachers are not in it by choice but due to lack of it, more students will go to professional courses. The fundamental requirement for science/arts career is love for the subject and this love has to be infused by school teachers. I think, India needs to pay enormous attention to school education instead of focussing so much on research institutes. Researchers are capable of raising their issues but not school children. Worth a read, I must say. Undergraduate research is a valid criticism. In fact, even undergraduate teaching is very neglected. Many talented Indian students are clueless about research after their Masters and take time to be confident of doing a PhD as well as understand what it is about. Unfortunately, this wasted time combined with the pressure to settle in before 30 means that people are in a hurry to finish PhD at the earliest and this is a rather wrong way to start a PhD.

I think given the dollar/euro exchange rates, it is going to be hard-pressed for India to retain its top post-doc students. It is similar to the best Master’s students going abroad for a Ph.D.. It is mainly a financial decision as well as societal pressure. By that i mean that you are respected all round even if you study in a third-rate institute abroad instead of a first-rate institute in India. This is not too dissimilar from the way many north indian students come and study in third-rate engineering colleges in South. Also, the top Indian institutes prefer and have rules that cater to post-docs and Phds from abroad than their own products. Sad state of affairs. They should not complain about students moving abroad at all.

When talking of attitudinal change, i might add the following : Image of “success”. Ram Guha spoke about it in the context of farmer suicides. The widely prevalent notion of success is 3 BHR own flat by 35, a fat pay cheque, a car and yearly vacations abroad. Unless you have these, you are a loser. This has lead people to aim for the glitzy glamorous life of a software or management professionals. A simple school/university teaching job is not considered one worth having at all. I hardly listen to anyone passionate about school teaching. This frightens me. If your school teachers are not in it by choice but due to lack of it, more students will go to professional courses. The fundamental requirement for science/arts career is love for the subject and this love has to be infused by school teachers. I think, India needs to pay enormous attention to school education instead of focussing so much on research institutes. Researchers are capable of raising their issues but not school children.

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