Comments on: Let’s not go all Moral over Tendulkar’s Walk http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk Powered by Webshore Wed, 01 Apr 2015 14:27:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Suhrith http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2829 Suhrith Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:56:27 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2829 I agree that we shouldn't attribute any particular motivation to the act, but that apart, like you say, he shouldn't have been walking regardless of his motivation. I agree that we shouldn’t attribute any particular motivation to the act, but that apart, like you say, he shouldn’t have been walking regardless of his motivation.

]]> By: Dhruv http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2827 Dhruv Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:18:10 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2827 Unless we hear from Sachin why he walked, it's impossible and possibly unfair to put words in his mouth and assume one motivation over another. If he comes and claims a moral reason, he's on shaky ground. In which case, we must ask that with 1 over and 14 runs to win the semis against Pak, with 9 wickets down and he gets an edge, would he walk? He'd have to, to maintain moral ground. But if he says he did it to avoid wasting time and looking silly ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR occasion, it's ok. Doesn't mean he'll walk each time. With UDRS, it's even more imperative that batsmen stand their ground, I believe. Fear of looking silly is all well, but the argument has always been that it's the umpire's job to send you off. With UDRS, it's like a having a better umpire, near perfect. So even more reason to let the umpire/technology do the job. Batsmen don't get second chances if they walk. Bowlers do, even if it goes against them. Unless we hear from Sachin why he walked, it’s impossible and possibly unfair to put words in his mouth and assume one motivation over another. If he comes and claims a moral reason, he’s on shaky ground. In which case, we must ask that with 1 over and 14 runs to win the semis against Pak, with 9 wickets down and he gets an edge, would he walk? He’d have to, to maintain moral ground.
But if he says he did it to avoid wasting time and looking silly ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR occasion, it’s ok. Doesn’t mean he’ll walk each time.
With UDRS, it’s even more imperative that batsmen stand their ground, I believe. Fear of looking silly is all well, but the argument has always been that it’s the umpire’s job to send you off. With UDRS, it’s like a having a better umpire, near perfect. So even more reason to let the umpire/technology do the job. Batsmen don’t get second chances if they walk. Bowlers do, even if it goes against them.

]]> By: Varun Hallikeri http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2826 Varun Hallikeri Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:11:30 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2826 I am not sure if any of you caught this - http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/507501.html. It is a good analysis of the impact of UDRS on 'walking'. I am not sure if any of you caught this – http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/507501.html. It is a good analysis of the impact of UDRS on ‘walking’.

]]> By: shiven http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2824 shiven Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:43:27 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2824 Hey, I think you completely got it wrong. If sachin would have said that he did it to be a saint, then it is worth sayin what you are sayin. As he has confessed to some of his near friends, he says that with UDRS in place, there is no use of standing the ground. The opposition would anyway refer it and he would be given out eventually. To save this, he walked away. Again if you say Sacihn has never walked, see the youtube of his blistering 143 against aus in 1998. Tony Greig can be heard saying.."oh he is walking ... he is walking" Hey,
I think you completely got it wrong. If sachin would have said that he did it to be a saint, then it is worth sayin what you are sayin. As he has confessed to some of his near friends, he says that with UDRS in place, there is no use of standing the ground. The opposition would anyway refer it and he would be given out eventually. To save this, he walked away.

Again if you say Sacihn has never walked, see the youtube of his blistering 143 against aus in 1998. Tony Greig can be heard saying..”oh he is walking … he is walking”

]]> By: Suhrith http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2821 Suhrith Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:57:14 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2821 Manjrekar began fine, like you say. But he's gotten quite bad in recent times. For instance, in India's chase against Ireland he was most concerned about which one of Tendulkar or Sehwag would get a hundred. He was suggesting that Tendulkar play some shots so as to ensure that he doesn't allow Sehwag to take away what could be a sure-shot century. Of course the chase turned out much harder than he expected it to. Manjrekar began fine, like you say. But he’s gotten quite bad in recent times. For instance, in India’s chase against Ireland he was most concerned about which one of Tendulkar or Sehwag would get a hundred. He was suggesting that Tendulkar play some shots so as to ensure that he doesn’t allow Sehwag to take away what could be a sure-shot century. Of course the chase turned out much harder than he expected it to.

]]> By: Stupid http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2817 Stupid Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:50:47 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2817 Disagree! Walking means maybe, just maybe you decide to follow the spirit of the game. The spirit of sportsmanship. Disagree!
Walking means maybe, just maybe you decide to follow the spirit of the game.
The spirit of sportsmanship.

]]> By: KK http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2816 KK Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:42:48 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2816 Well, Davis did rule him not out, but Tendulkar must have felt that since he'd edged it, it would show up in the replays and the decision would have been overruled. Manjrekar is okay no? I really liked him before, when he was on Ten Sports. He's not as good now, I admit, but I wouldn't bracket him alongside SMG just yet. Well, Davis did rule him not out, but Tendulkar must have felt that since he’d edged it, it would show up in the replays and the decision would have been overruled.
Manjrekar is okay no? I really liked him before, when he was on Ten Sports. He’s not as good now, I admit, but I wouldn’t bracket him alongside SMG just yet.

]]> By: Suhrith http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2815 Suhrith Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:17:11 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2815 I am not sure if the analogy quite works. The point in your example is about a person giving up his entire career to serve his ailing parents. Here, we are talking about one occasion, a largely meaningless fixture in which Tendulkar has walked. So even assuming that we are right to make moral judgments about his decision to walk, I am not sure it can be judged without taking into account his past actions. I am not sure if the analogy quite works. The point in your example is about a person giving up his entire career to serve his ailing parents. Here, we are talking about one occasion, a largely meaningless fixture in which Tendulkar has walked. So even assuming that we are right to make moral judgments about his decision to walk, I am not sure it can be judged without taking into account his past actions.

]]> By: Suhrith http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2814 Suhrith Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:10:48 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2814 Thanks Anirudh. That's precisely the point. Even assuming the prerogative rests with the batsmen to decide whether they want to walk, I am not sure Tendulkar should be lauded for having walked on this single occasion. Thanks Anirudh. That’s precisely the point. Even assuming the prerogative rests with the batsmen to decide whether they want to walk, I am not sure Tendulkar should be lauded for having walked on this single occasion.

]]> By: Suhrith http://www.criticaltwenties.in/sport/lets-not-go-all-moral-over-tendulkars-walk#comment-2813 Suhrith Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:08:51 +0000 http://www.criticaltwenties.in/?p=2624#comment-2813 I think the UDRS certainly may have played a part in Tendulkar's decision. But I suppose only he will know. Regardless, I am not sure the cost of being found out should force a batsman to walk. Let the opposition use the review and especially without hot spot, I'm not sure the decision would have been reversed had Steve Davis ruled him not-out. I think the UDRS certainly may have played a part in Tendulkar’s decision. But I suppose only he will know. Regardless, I am not sure the cost of being found out should force a batsman to walk. Let the opposition use the review and especially without hot spot, I’m not sure the decision would have been reversed had Steve Davis ruled him not-out.

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